PERMIT APPLICATION RETURNED
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DL should have no indication of your firearm license. YOUR ADDRESS is on it. A lost permit tells the criminal right where to go for a firearm or two.
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DL should have no indication of your firearm license. YOUR ADDRESS is on it. A lost permit tells the criminal right where to go for a firearm or two.
sorry
Your address is on the carry permit also.
FNH High Power
Member
Actually, I had planned on including it, citing it in the verbage of the request for appeal. Stating something to the effect that MSP KNEW there would be applications flooding in, and they chose to hold some, they could have given me the option to hold mine as well. A simple phone call to request I state in writing that my application be held like the ones pre stay are.
DL should have no indication of your firearm license. YOUR ADDRESS is on it. A lost permit tells the criminal right where to go for a firearm or two.
sorry
Patrick's idea was basically Constitutional Carry.
Everybody's driver's license would be a carry permit, unless a 5 minute NCIS-type background check revealed them to be a Prohibited Person.
So all those Suburban Million Soccer Mom Brady Huggers would have carry permits. Franciscan Friars would have carry permits. Most people would have carry permits, even if they were wild-eyed "Melt-'em-all-down!" Antis.
In Wyoming, your proof of Wyoming residency is your carry permit. This would be almost the same, except it would reveal to everybody who had a Prohibiting arrest record, psych history, etc. And there I see a problem.
Threeband said:
Which is no worse than the restrictions placed on your DL that you have to wear glasses or no night driving. YMMV
I was just thinking is spite of all the fancy language used to muddy the water of what constitutes good and substantial in reality all permits when you get right down to it are in fact issued for self defense. Case in point you have been issued a permit because you frequently carry large amounts of cash. Criminal approaches you presents a weapon and states it is my intent to harm you because I want your cash. The threat of physical harm to YOU is what creates the need for the firearm. Based on the current discriminatory logic someone could beat the snot out of you provided they had no intent to rob you of your cash. Your firearm could not be used because it was issued to protect your cash not your life. A firearm is to protect a person if you want to keep someone from taking your cash try chaining it to a big rock.
But why double the possibility? I don't always carry my 4 permits with me. Some guys only carry the permit if they are carrying, so if you are carrying your permit and not carrying, there are more guns at your residence. Why risk the extra exposure?
BTW my FL permit has no address on it. That makes some sense to me
DL should have no indication of your firearm license. YOUR ADDRESS is on it. A lost permit tells the criminal right where to go for a firearm or two.
sorry
I don't see the issue. A lost DL tells them where to find a CAR (presumably worth more than your gun)
Everybody's driver's license is a carry permit!
Only people prohibited to own guns would be identified. Those are the more likely burglary targets, according to many.
Honestly, I don't believe any criminal is going to research burglary targets using carry permit information. That person likely only has one gun, and is carrying it.
Most American houses contain guns. Pick a house at random, and go for it.
Klunatic
Ultimate Member
I don't see the issue. A lost DL tells them where to find a CAR (presumably worth more than your gun)
And your car is far more lethal than your hand cannon.
A very condescending attitude by the review board. This should be useful in helping those who intend to sue both the state and the board members personally. However, the applicant couldn't have been more professional or composed, this is a model of how EVERYONE who goes before the review board should act, in my opinion.
I would be willing to bet the state is going to try to make changes in an upcoming budget special session; so we do need to be vigilant.
gmhowell
Not Banned Yet
I don't see the issue. A lost DL tells them where to find a CAR (presumably worth more than your gun)
You are likely unfamiliar with my car.
gmhowell
Not Banned Yet
Heaven forbid someone go to jail for using taxpayer dollars to pay for prostitutes.
A car can't be started without a key. A gun sure can. I'm not taking a side, but I think using a system where prohibited people would be flagged would be just fine.
Hotrod Diesel
Here for the Beer...
Hmm... You really just made that statement... No need to address the first part of that statement, that's too easy. Do you wonder why Md has an internal lock law for handguns? If you use your internal lock (
) then your gun does need a key.
Steve973
Enthusiast
None of us like the laws that deny us an unalienable right, but I didn't think that the review board was very condescending. The issue at those meetings wasn't to evaluate or interpret the second amendment, but to enforce the law by reviewing the applicant's need. I'm sure that my comment won't be received well by many people here, but we're not going to get what we want by the review board that is conducting business as usual after the stay was issued. We simply have to wait for the appeals to run their course. Hopefully there will only be one appeal and we will be victorious.
Patrick
MSI Executive Member
Keep in mind that the review board can deny you under the current rules of the game. Asking for a review does one big thing, though: it uses the process afforded you to the fullest extent of the law. If you stop before all the hurdles are finished, then you give up chance of appeal after the ruling is upheld/stay is lifted.
I suspect the state will say you are not allowed a review because they do not consider your permit as having been acted upon. Keep that letter. It proves you went as far as you could.
gmhowell
Not Banned Yet
I also bet that if enough people went with the administrative appeal, at least some people would win by dint of the timeframe allowed. No idea what kind of 'win' this would be, but it would be interesting. And a ddos on the board would be good for a laugh.
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