209 primers vs. 209 primers

teqmod · Aug 29, 2014

Looking at ordering some and I see the ones for actual reload are going for 30-40 per 1000. I see some are selling "Muzzle Loader" 209 primers for $10 per 100. While I am sure I don't need 1000 primers, sren't these pretty much the same thing for 1/3 the cost?

1000 for 33.99
http://www.ballisticproducts.com/Winchester-209-Primers-1000_box/productinfo/W209/

100 for $10
http://www.basspro.com/Remington-Kleanbore-209-Primers/product/68711/

outrider58 · Aug 29, 2014

I've always used Winchesters til someone raved about Hogdon 777.....only hang-fire I've ever had in 10 or 12 years of muzzle loader hunting was while using the 777s. I was shooting at a giant whitetail. Needless to say, I miss him.

I'd be prone to buy no more than 100 at a time, just so they don't get old on me if I'm only using them for M-loading.

BigDaddy · Aug 29, 2014

I look it at 3 times the cost. If you don't need 1000, though it's penny wise and pound foolish to buy that many, unless you want to be prepared for the next 3 primer shortages.

iH8DemLibz · Aug 29, 2014

Get yourself some CCI Magnum 209's and be done with it.

PMD354 · Aug 29, 2014

I have used Hodgdon Pyrodex 50/50 pellets (2) with WW 209 regular shotgun primers for years and have never had a problem. The only thing that I make sure to do is drop the darker end in first.

teqmod · Aug 29, 2014

BigDaddy said:
I look it at 3 times the cost. If you don't need 1000, though it's penny wise and pound foolish to buy that many, unless you want to be prepared for the next 3 primer shortages.

I agree, no need for 1000 but can still buy 100 for $5 instead of 10 for the "purpose built" primers.

Since I had such an issue last year with locating the percussion caps I picked up an inline and while not stockpiling, I don't want to end up on empty when the season rolls around.

epps1919 · Aug 29, 2014

I buy them buy the 1000, Winchester, CCI's and Remingtons for the Gatling Gun and never had a misfire, only a light strike once in awhile. I never waste my money on these so called black powder primers.

outrider58 · Aug 30, 2014

PMD354 said:
I have used Hodgdon Pyrodex 50/50 pellets (2) with WW 209 regular shotgun primers for years and have never had a problem. The only thing that I make sure to do is drop the darker end in first.

Have you tinkered with the Hodgdon Tripple Seven? It tends to shoot cleaner and is non-corrosive. I love the stuff.

epps1919 · Aug 30, 2014

outrider58 said:
Have you tinkered with the Hodgdon Tripple Seven? It tends to shoot cleaner and is non-corrosive. I love the stuff.

I have shot lots of it in my Gatling Gun and if I dont clean it with in 2 days it will start to rust. Non- Corrosive my A$$.

shocka04 · Sep 4, 2014

Has anyone been able to find any CCI 209M primers? Haven't been able to find them anywhere.

Melnic · Sep 4, 2014

shocka04 said:
Has anyone been able to find any CCI 209M primers? Haven't been able to find them anywhere.

I hunted at shops and at Gun Shows. None since last Dec. They may be out there, just did not find any. Saw some online a couple times but did not want to pay $70 for 1000 primers, nor did I feel like trying to buy and sell.

I wanted it for using BH209.
CVA sells a modified breech plug designed for BH209. I got that then purchased standard shotgun 209 primers (not ML type 209 primers) and flawless in about 20 firings so far with BH209

outrider58 · Sep 5, 2014

epps1919 said:
I have shot lots of it in my Gatling Gun and if I dont clean it with in 2 days it will start to rust. Non- Corrosive my A$$.

I'm shooting through a stainless barrel...seven or so years and not a single pit

:shrug:

Panzer Radeo · Sep 10, 2014

I only use Federal 209A's or CCI M209s. Hard to find CCI's but I've be able to find the Feds.

kstone803 · Sep 10, 2014

Melnic said:
I hunted at shops and at Gun Shows. None since last Dec. They may be out there, just did not find any. Saw some online a couple times but did not want to pay $70 for 1000 primers, nor did I feel like trying to buy and sell.

I wanted it for using BH209.
CVA sells a modified breech plug designed for BH209. I got that then purchased standard shotgun 209 primers (not ML type 209 primers) and flawless in about 20 firings so far with BH209

Same here. I couldn't find magnums and have been using rio shotgun 209s with the stock breechplug and BH209 with no problems at all.

PMD354 · Sep 10, 2014

I have not tried the triple 7's. My nephew swears by them. The 50/50 pellets in my inline shoots 1 1/2" groups at 50 yards. That is good enough for me. And by the deer I have killed using Hornady 240 grain XTP's I'll just stick with the 50/50 pellets.

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