question about form 1 cleo sign off

adam620 · December 28th, 2010, 08:15 PM

Did they just put a red maryland state police licenseing divison stamp on your forms or did they write out the section? All they did was put that stamp on my form and write in a phone number.

adam620 · December 29th, 2010, 06:13 PM

no one can tell me what msp put on there forms?

JCB003 · December 29th, 2010, 07:03 PM

Mine have the MSP Firearms Licensing Division stamp, a date stamp, a stamp that says The Supt of State Police gives permission for ___________ to sign and they have found no criminal record then it's signed by a Sgt. I could go get the form and write exactly what it says, but that's what I remember.

adam620 · December 29th, 2010, 08:14 PM

danm i think someone was lazy and only put one stamp on my form,i sent the form in acouple months ago but its been nagging on my mind.

rsideout · December 29th, 2010, 09:13 PM

I recently got two form 1's back from MSP. It has the red stamp, black stamp, signature, and phone number. Form 1's from earlier this year had a little more filled out in the By (if delegated authority to sign....)section.

adam620 · December 30th, 2010, 12:54 PM

do you think my form will get disapproved if i only have the msp licenseing stamp and a phone number?

rsideout · December 30th, 2010, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adam620

do you think my form will get disapproved if i only have the msp licenseing stamp and a phone number?

Not sure. Here is how MSP approved my two most recent Form 1s. How does this compared to yours?

adam620 · December 30th, 2010, 02:50 PM

it only has the black(but its red on mine) stamp and a phone number

rsideout · December 30th, 2010, 05:07 PM

I can't tell you what BATFE will do without a signature, even though it has the approved stamp. However, you could call the Class 3 folks at MSP and tell them what you have and see if they say that someone should have signed your form.

Revvin' Evan · January 22nd, 2011, 02:26 AM

So when you walk in to the MSP office what do you say?

"I'm buying an ultra cool NFA item

and I need you to sign off on it whether you like it or not."

Seriously though, who do you ask for and how do you go about it?

Kharn · January 24th, 2011, 08:05 PM

Show up with your forms, an MSP-specific finger print card and a check for $18, a very uninterested bureaucrat will come downstairs, have you sign the form in front of him/her and send you on your way. The completed forms will be mailed to you in a few weeks (or six months for me on two of my SBRs, I was pissed and now go direct to my sheriff).

Revvin' Evan · January 24th, 2011, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kharn

Show up with your forms, an MSP-specific finger print card and a check for $18, a very uninterested bureaucrat will come downstairs, have you sign the form in front of him/her and send you on your way. The completed forms will be mailed to you in a few weeks (or six months for me on two of my SBRs, I was pissed and now go direct to my sheriff).

6 months huh? Lame. Hope that doesn't happen to me.

Thanks for sharing

Major Asstard · December 22nd, 2012, 06:14 PM

Greetings All,

New to the forum today. Need help please. Sent in my Form 4 for a suppressor. Been 3 months now and my Class 3 dealer called me & said the Examiner sent my paperwork back. They require a red stamp on it? ALL the forms were filled out properly, photos, signatures from the MSP Barrack Commander, etc... Is this something new? This is my first application for an NFA item so please bear with me. What do I need to do to complete their request?

Thanks in advance, Major

rsideout · December 22nd, 2012, 07:04 PM

Who is your C3 Dealer?

Major Asstard · December 22nd, 2012, 07:52 PM

Bill's House of Guns
Kitzmiller, MD

rsideout · December 22nd, 2012, 08:01 PM

Look at the picture in my post #7 above. Do you have a similar red stap from MSP on your form?

Major Asstard · December 22nd, 2012, 08:10 PM

I haven't received my paperwork USPS back from BHOG yet. The red stamps are what he was referring to that the examiner is requesting I guess.

teratos · December 23rd, 2012, 05:22 AM

I assume this was not done with a trust?

Major Asstard · December 23rd, 2012, 03:49 PM

You are correct. No trust involved.

Major Asstard · January 25th, 2013, 11:09 PM

Update Gentleman:

The examiner wanted my CLEO (Sheriff) to sign off on my paperwork and not the MSP Barrack Commander. Signed on a Friday, mailed back to Martinsburg. Two Thursday's later and BHOG sent me a text saying my form 4 had cleared. Picked up my can the next day. 7 month wait. Very excited it is now mine. Now to get the QD mounts installed and get ready for Spring shooting at the range.

December 28th, 2010, 08:15 PM	#1
adam620 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 37	question about form 1 cleo sign off Did they just put a red maryland state police licenseing divison stamp on your forms or did they write out the section? All they did was put that stamp on my form and write in a phone number.

December 23rd, 2012, 05:22 AM	#18
teratos My hair is AMAZING Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bel Air Posts: 11,722	I assume this was not done with a trust? __________________ MSI Board Member SAF Defender's Club NRA Life Member C&R FFL MD Designated Collector hvymax when describing the town hall meeting on SB281: We are factually sodomizing them. Not that they care. TAKE BACK MARYLAND

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December 29th, 2010, 06:13 PM	#2
adam620 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 37	no one can tell me what msp put on there forms?

December 29th, 2010, 07:03 PM	#3
JCB003 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 924	Mine have the MSP Firearms Licensing Division stamp, a date stamp, a stamp that says The Supt of State Police gives permission for ___________ to sign and they have found no criminal record then it's signed by a Sgt. I could go get the form and write exactly what it says, but that's what I remember.

December 29th, 2010, 08:14 PM	#4
adam620 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 37	danm i think someone was lazy and only put one stamp on my form,i sent the form in acouple months ago but its been nagging on my mind.

December 29th, 2010, 09:13 PM	#5
rsideout Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: MD - Capital Region Posts: 2,327	I recently got two form 1's back from MSP. It has the red stamp, black stamp, signature, and phone number. Form 1's from earlier this year had a little more filled out in the By (if delegated authority to sign....)section.

December 30th, 2010, 12:54 PM	#6
adam620 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 37	do you think my form will get disapproved if i only have the msp licenseing stamp and a phone number?

December 30th, 2010, 02:50 PM	#8
adam620 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 37	it only has the black(but its red on mine) stamp and a phone number

December 30th, 2010, 05:07 PM	#9
rsideout Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: MD - Capital Region Posts: 2,327	I can't tell you what BATFE will do without a signature, even though it has the approved stamp. However, you could call the Class 3 folks at MSP and tell them what you have and see if they say that someone should have signed your form.

January 22nd, 2011, 02:26 AM	#10
Revvin' Evan Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Baltimore County Posts: 256	So when you walk in to the MSP office what do you say? "I'm buying an ultra cool NFA item and I need you to sign off on it whether you like it or not." Seriously though, who do you ask for and how do you go about it?

January 24th, 2011, 08:05 PM	#11
Kharn Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hazzard County Posts: 1,425	Show up with your forms, an MSP-specific finger print card and a check for $18, a very uninterested bureaucrat will come downstairs, have you sign the form in front of him/her and send you on your way. The completed forms will be mailed to you in a few weeks (or six months for me on two of my SBRs, I was pissed and now go direct to my sheriff).

December 22nd, 2012, 06:14 PM	#13
Major Asstard Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 7	Greetings All, New to the forum today. Need help please. Sent in my Form 4 for a suppressor. Been 3 months now and my Class 3 dealer called me & said the Examiner sent my paperwork back. They require a red stamp on it? ALL the forms were filled out properly, photos, signatures from the MSP Barrack Commander, etc... Is this something new? This is my first application for an NFA item so please bear with me. What do I need to do to complete their request? Thanks in advance, Major

December 22nd, 2012, 07:04 PM	#14
rsideout Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: MD - Capital Region Posts: 2,327	Who is your C3 Dealer?

December 22nd, 2012, 07:52 PM	#15
Major Asstard Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 7	Bill's House of Guns Kitzmiller, MD

December 22nd, 2012, 08:01 PM	#16
rsideout Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: MD - Capital Region Posts: 2,327	Look at the picture in my post #7 above. Do you have a similar red stap from MSP on your form?

December 22nd, 2012, 08:10 PM	#17
Major Asstard Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 7	I haven't received my paperwork USPS back from BHOG yet. The red stamps are what he was referring to that the examiner is requesting I guess.

December 23rd, 2012, 03:49 PM	#19
Major Asstard Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 7	You are correct. No trust involved.

January 25th, 2013, 11:09 PM	#20
Major Asstard Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 7	Update Gentleman: The examiner wanted my CLEO (Sheriff) to sign off on my paperwork and not the MSP Barrack Commander. Signed on a Friday, mailed back to Martinsburg. Two Thursday's later and BHOG sent me a text saying my form 4 had cleared. Picked up my can the next day. 7 month wait. Very excited it is now mine. Now to get the QD mounts installed and get ready for Spring shooting at the range.

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