Update from Del. Tony McConkey. Norton was right, I appreciate the Post Norton because i sent a reply that asked if there had been a misunderstanding.
Maryland Shall Issue - "Scarlet G for Gun Owner" Bills - Response
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"Two Maryland state legislators are attacking the individual Second Amendment civil right to keep and bear arms of law-abiding citizens of the so-called Free State," gun rights expert John M. Snyder charged here today.
http://www.expertclick.com/NewsRele...ar_on_Civil_Rights_in_Maryland,201030674.aspx
http://www.expertclick.com/NewsRele...ar_on_Civil_Rights_in_Maryland,201030674.aspx
grb
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Morning All, I just wanted to let everyone know I received a letter from my delegate Donald B. Elliott to my e-mail of last week. If I can figure out how to work my wife's scanner, I will scan and post here. I will quote a couple of his comments below:
"For much of my time in the Maryland House of Delegates, I have seen various pieces of legislation introduced with the sole objective of infringing on and individual's 2nd Amendment Right To Bear Arms in homes and on personal property. Unfortunately, many of these measures have passed through the General Assembly and have impacted what I believe to be an overreaching arm of the state into people's lives..."
"I do not support further restrictions on Marylander's 2nd Amendment rights."
"I do not support HB 820. The arguments in favor of it fall short of addressing the critical objective we as legislators must always follow, namely following the Constitution of the United States and preserving the rights enumerated therein."
"I believe in programs like Project Exile, which sentences felons convicted of illegally possessing firearms to a minimum of 5 years imprisonment are far more efective in targeting the true perpetrators of gun violence, and not the law-abiding citizen who wants to hunt or protect his home."
It is a full page letter and I will see if I can scan later to post the entire thing on here. All in all, it was a very positve response.
"For much of my time in the Maryland House of Delegates, I have seen various pieces of legislation introduced with the sole objective of infringing on and individual's 2nd Amendment Right To Bear Arms in homes and on personal property. Unfortunately, many of these measures have passed through the General Assembly and have impacted what I believe to be an overreaching arm of the state into people's lives..."
"I do not support further restrictions on Marylander's 2nd Amendment rights."
"I do not support HB 820. The arguments in favor of it fall short of addressing the critical objective we as legislators must always follow, namely following the Constitution of the United States and preserving the rights enumerated therein."
"I believe in programs like Project Exile, which sentences felons convicted of illegally possessing firearms to a minimum of 5 years imprisonment are far more efective in targeting the true perpetrators of gun violence, and not the law-abiding citizen who wants to hunt or protect his home."
It is a full page letter and I will see if I can scan later to post the entire thing on here. All in all, it was a very positve response.
grb, that's great. I do wish he would have included protecting ones person as well, where he mentions hunting and protecting his home. Two out of three ain't bad.
Gosh I think national recipiocity makes a lot of sense, I hope John Snyder here is right:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duQhATXi_-o&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
You'll like this as well :-)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcjvilXWUKc&feature=fvw[/youtube]
Gosh I think national recipiocity makes a lot of sense, I hope John Snyder here is right:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duQhATXi_-o&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
You'll like this as well :-)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcjvilXWUKc&feature=fvw[/youtube]
Boondock Saint
Ultimate Member
Use yt instead of youtube in your tags, and only put the bolded text above between them.
grb
Ultimate Member
I'll try again, thanks B. Saint for the help.
wreckdiver
Ultimate Member
- Nov 13, 2008
- 2,939
HB 820 Update
February 15, 2010
Re: H.B. 820 – Firearm Safety Act of 2010
Dear Sir/Madam,
I would like to inform you that the hearing date for H.B. 820 has been rescheduled for March 11th at 1pm in the Judiciary Committee.
Thank you for your concern and support to prevent this legislation. I will continue to keep you updated on any changes to this bill. For further questions or concerns please contact my office at JB.Jennings@house.state.md.us or call 410-841-3698. Also you can check the status of the bill, and check hearing updates with this link http://mlis.state.md.us/2010rs/billfile/hb0820.htm
Best Regards,
Delegate J.B. Jennings
Member, House of Delegates
February 15, 2010
Re: H.B. 820 – Firearm Safety Act of 2010
Dear Sir/Madam,
I would like to inform you that the hearing date for H.B. 820 has been rescheduled for March 11th at 1pm in the Judiciary Committee.
Thank you for your concern and support to prevent this legislation. I will continue to keep you updated on any changes to this bill. For further questions or concerns please contact my office at JB.Jennings@house.state.md.us or call 410-841-3698. Also you can check the status of the bill, and check hearing updates with this link http://mlis.state.md.us/2010rs/billfile/hb0820.htm
Best Regards,
Delegate J.B. Jennings
Member, House of Delegates
IjustCantAim
Active Member
- Jan 20, 2010
- 738
hairba111
XGMG2
I got this email today.
February 15, 2010
Re: H.B. 820 – Firearm Safety Act of 2010
Dear Sir/Madam,
I would like to inform you that the hearing date for H.B. 820 has been rescheduled for March 11th at 1pm in the Judiciary Committee.
Thank you for your concern and support to prevent this legislation. I will continue to keep you updated on any changes to this bill. For further questions or concerns please contact my office at JB.Jennings@house.state.md.us or call 410-841-3698. Also you can check the status of the bill, and check hearing updates with this link http://mlis.state.md.us/2010rs/billfile/hb0820.htm
Best Regards,
Delegate J.B. Jennings
Member, House of Delegates
February 15, 2010
Re: H.B. 820 – Firearm Safety Act of 2010
Dear Sir/Madam,
I would like to inform you that the hearing date for H.B. 820 has been rescheduled for March 11th at 1pm in the Judiciary Committee.
Thank you for your concern and support to prevent this legislation. I will continue to keep you updated on any changes to this bill. For further questions or concerns please contact my office at JB.Jennings@house.state.md.us or call 410-841-3698. Also you can check the status of the bill, and check hearing updates with this link http://mlis.state.md.us/2010rs/billfile/hb0820.htm
Best Regards,
Delegate J.B. Jennings
Member, House of Delegates
Have no doubt Robey will vote for it. No wonder the man was totally despised by the troops in Howard County when he was police chief.
Has there been any mention made of the hearings on what I would call the two worst bills, the AWB and the Scarlet G, being scheduled for the same date and time in different chambers so a pro-gun person can't attend both?
The more I think about it, the more I think this Scarlet G bill is meant as a diversion for the AWB. Which is not to say it isn't dangerous, of course it is. But we can't take our eyes off the other snake in the grass either. This is gonna be a lot of work this year.....
The more I think about it, the more I think this Scarlet G bill is meant as a diversion for the AWB. Which is not to say it isn't dangerous, of course it is. But we can't take our eyes off the other snake in the grass either. This is gonna be a lot of work this year.....
- May 22, 2005
- 122,880
Update will be out tonight. It's being proofed as we speak.
I think both of those bills are feint for some of the other bills that are not as high profile.
Fodder4Thought
New Dad!!
- Jul 19, 2009
- 3,035
I left a message with Delegate Turner's office today, and the lady said I'd get a reply. She also said that they'd been getting a lot of calls and emails about these two bills, so hopefully this will get nipped in the bud.
Fodder4Thought
New Dad!!
- Jul 19, 2009
- 3,035
I think I see where you're coming from - the two bills are pretty blatant, and the people who wrote them had to know what kind of reaction they would incite in people who care about guns, and that the Scarlet Letter one probably has little chance of passing (God willing). Not that I think they wouldn't take 'em if they could get 'em, but the questions I now have are:
What bills are they trying to slip under the radar?
How does this help - is it to distract the public from another bill, or could it be to occupy the time and attention of Delegates, instead?
Could it be intended to fail, so that it can be rewritten in a marginally more palatable fashion, with the expectation that resistance to the bill will wear down as people lose the energy to fight it?
I'm kind of new to this, so if these are stupid questions let me know.
- May 22, 2005
- 122,880
If one reads the language of the FOID bills particularly, there is language in there that is nearly identical to the two cross-filed bills dealing with the dealr record keeping.
I also think that the two cross-filed ammunition bills are an excuse to codify the ammo logs.
I also think that the two cross-filed ammunition bills are an excuse to codify the ammo logs.
Fodder4Thought
New Dad!!
- Jul 19, 2009
- 3,035
I thought ammo logs were being avoided legislatively because they were already deemed to be illegal.
I must have missed something - the FOID bill is the Firearm Owner's ID bill, but I'm only aware of one other bill, namely the 'Assault Weapon' bill. What are the cross-filed bills?
- May 22, 2005
- 122,880
They were never adjudicated as being illegal. They just pulled the bill last year because of the impending public relations nightmare that they were facing.
Bills can be cross-filed in both chambers at one time. It allows for quicker passage and allows for legislators to pander to their constituencies. Not all bills are cross-filed but the two high profile bills were.
Fodder4Thought
New Dad!!
- Jul 19, 2009
- 3,035
Huh. So tell me, how does one go about shaming a politician?
Hmm... If these are intended to be a screen for something else, what could it be? I can only think that, if it is a screen, and if the people behind such a deception are on the ball, the thing they're trying to slip in is might be hidden in an unrelated bill. Maybe something like a public safety bill, or a health related one?
Are there any other avenues that might be used? If there's no change in the legislation, can there be a change in interpretation or policy on the way? Might we be missing a court case that's coming up?
Again, I apologize if these are irrelevant questions.
- May 22, 2005
- 122,880
Letter from an individual in the Frederick News Post:
http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/opinion/display_lte.htm?StoryID=101377
http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/opinion/display_lte.htm?StoryID=101377
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