Ok, try this loophole on for size... - Page 2

novus collectus · October 15th, 2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tractor Boy

In my ACU's I can legally carry under the Patriot Act "participation in DoD and/or military organisation while in uniform" though I sometimes carry out of uniform, taking my carry/issue card with me

There is also this allowance in state law:

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(ii) a member of the armed forces of the United States or of the National Guard on duty or traveling to or from duty;

Tractor Boy · October 15th, 2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by novus collectus

There is also this allowance in state law:

thank god for that, probably should have proof such as orders, but I've never had a problem

Maverick0313 · October 15th, 2009, 06:32 PM

MD is so special when it comes to firearms, is it not??

Tractor Boy · October 15th, 2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick0313

MD is so special when it comes to firearms, is it not??

No, not really, but liberals and tree-huggers really dont like guns and socialists think we should not own them in fear of having less power over its citizens

novus collectus · October 16th, 2009, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tractor Boy

No, not really, but liberals and tree-huggers really dont like guns and socialists think we should not own them in fear of having less power over its citizens

Heeeyyyy, THIS liberal likes guns.

RegularJay · October 16th, 2009, 08:24 AM

I was a self employed electrical contractor for a number of years. My business location was wherever I was. i.e. if I was in your home installing a ceiling fan THAT was my business location. I did not have a storefront location my entire business travelled with me in my truck. It seemed to me that I should be able to carry wherever I went because that was where my business was.

Jay

Doc13 · November 6th, 2009, 10:16 PM

From a practical standpoint, if you are carrying a loaded sidearm in your vehicle without a carry license that permits this, you are going to get locked up, regardless of what the Court of Appeals does later (because the Circuit Court WILL find you guilty). Consider whether or not you are willing to endure these consequences, both physical and financial, before you enter these gray areas. From an ethical standpoint, it is reprehensible that one is required to choose between self defense and these consequences, but that is not going to keep you out of jail in this state.

md_rick_o · November 7th, 2009, 08:21 PM

The funny thing about carry as a military member is that (at least in the air force) you are not allowed to bring any personally owned firearm on base except for specifically approved reason. If i were going to bring my own gun to the shooting team practice after normal duty hours I would have to have a letter signed by the commander.

Tractor Boy · November 8th, 2009, 06:16 PM

My company commander allows me to carry due to my views on the subject. He also has encouraged and allows others to do the same, I have been trying to get them involved in the MSI thing but havnt gotten much of a following

smores · November 8th, 2009, 10:23 PM

I <3 Pennsylvania. Just reading this thread gave me a headache. Glad I left MD.

backnblack · November 9th, 2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by smores

I <3 Pennsylvania. Just reading this thread gave me a headache. Glad I left MD.

That's why I spend alot of my time in PA or VA

GBMaryland · November 18th, 2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mixman

One thing (among many) that worries me isn't just what the laws are in MD, but what the LOE's "THINK" they are.

About 20 years ago I was arrested due to a case of mistaken identity.

That same day I has disassembled about 50 round of Speer 38 caliber JHP rounds that had at least 1 double charge... so I had to take them all apart. Which I did behind the place I worked in the parking lot where I could use a inertial bullet puller and make the noise.

So they search my car, and in NJ, hollow points are illegal WHEN USED IN COMMISSION OF A CRIME (aka firearm related crime, such as armed robbery, etc.), and, of course, they find the DISASSEMBLED rounds (bullets and casings).

The officer tells me that the "cop killer bullets" I've got are illegal, and he's going to charge with the class II felony [i.e. 6 year maximum prison sentence]. Now, mind, you, these are not even live rounds anymore... just bullets and casings, I threw the powder in the bushes.

...and I've seen alot of other officers that don't know the statues over the years as well.

Of course, there is also the reality that no one can know every law, but the common ones there is really no excuse for not knowing.

[I got off completely, as I hadn't committed a crime, and there was no probable cause to pull me over to begin with... but it was scary.]

October 15th, 2009, 06:32 PM	#23
Maverick0313 Maverick0313 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Columbia, MD Posts: 168	MD is so special when it comes to firearms, is it not?? __________________ Geoffrey "Jeff" Cline NRA Benefactor Member Maryland Shall Issue Member Maryland Designated Collector Glock 17 9mm SIG Mosquito .22 SIG P226 Tactical 9mm Rock River M4 w/Bushnell T-dot 5.56

November 6th, 2009, 10:16 PM	#27
Doc13 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Posts: 4	From a practical standpoint, if you are carrying a loaded sidearm in your vehicle without a carry license that permits this, you are going to get locked up, regardless of what the Court of Appeals does later (because the Circuit Court WILL find you guilty). Consider whether or not you are willing to endure these consequences, both physical and financial, before you enter these gray areas. From an ethical standpoint, it is reprehensible that one is required to choose between self defense and these consequences, but that is not going to keep you out of jail in this state. __________________ "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

November 8th, 2009, 06:16 PM	#29
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November 8th, 2009, 10:23 PM	#30
smores Mr. Doom & Gloom Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 6,055 Images: 6	I <3 Pennsylvania. Just reading this thread gave me a headache. Glad I left MD. __________________ "The political class is far beyond the ambition of ordinary thieves. Thieves only rob you, they don't set themselves up to rob your children into successive generations." *"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."* - Thomas Jefferson 1787 Burned. Inhaled. Thrown away. If it were anything but a cigarette, it would surely be crying.

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October 16th, 2009, 08:24 AM	#26
RegularJay Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 68	I was a self employed electrical contractor for a number of years. My business location was wherever I was. i.e. if I was in your home installing a ceiling fan THAT was my business location. I did not have a storefront location my entire business travelled with me in my truck. It seemed to me that I should be able to carry wherever I went because that was where my business was. Jay

November 7th, 2009, 08:21 PM	#28
md_rick_o Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Millersville Md. Posts: 720 Images: 2	The funny thing about carry as a military member is that (at least in the air force) you are not allowed to bring any personally owned firearm on base except for specifically approved reason. If i were going to bring my own gun to the shooting team practice after normal duty hours I would have to have a letter signed by the commander.

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