37 MM launchers in MD

rickyp · April 14th, 2012, 08:04 PM

I am thinking about getting a 37 MM launcher to go under my ar 15 and have some questions buth dealing with the federal and MD regs.

I know they can be bought as a flair launcher with no paperwork. but if you want they can be registered as a D.D.with the ATF
How would I make it from a flair launcher in to a D.D.?

what is the MD laws regarding a 37 MM launcher?

I know anti personal rounds are a no-no with out it being a D.D., What rounds can be fired from it with out the paperwork

What rounds are legal to use in MD

Can the fireworks round be used in MD?
smoke rounds be used?

Inigoes · April 14th, 2012, 08:08 PM

No special laws for a 37mm

Smoke and flare are pretty much what you are limited to, making it eunuch.

PM Midcounty for pricing

rickyp · April 14th, 2012, 08:16 PM

so smoke round and the firework rounds would be ok in MD?

NHaze · April 14th, 2012, 08:17 PM

I know you can make up your own 37mm rounds, if legally licensed etc, etc...

But aren't most anti-personnel rounds 40mm? And isn't each "explosive" round considered a unique DD?

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Inigoes · April 14th, 2012, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickyp

so smoke round and the firework rounds would be ok in MD?

As long as you don't CS the neighbors

rickyp · April 14th, 2012, 08:20 PM

I have seen 12 ga shotshell and 38 special adaptors for it as well as other rounds for it, I would like to use the 12 ga so I will have to do the D.D. paperwork how do I go about doing it.

Cai · April 14th, 2012, 08:26 PM

Gotta be careful with the firework rounds. all air based fireworks are illegal in MD without the right permits.

robertgreen79 · April 14th, 2012, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickyp

I have seen 12 ga shotshell and 38 special adaptors for it as well as other rounds for it, I would like to use the 12 ga so I will have to do the D.D. paperwork how do I go about doing it.

I like that idea. I havent seen one with that yet

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erwos · April 15th, 2012, 09:17 AM

You create a DD the same way you create an SBR: engrave, fill out the form, pay your money, and wait a while.

Two things I'd point out about ammo:
1. Chalk rounds in a non-DD 37mm launcher are now a no-no.
2. Each high explosive round is its own DD. They are basically cost prohibitive to use.

ViperRy · April 17th, 2012, 09:34 PM

As stated above, smoke and flares are pretty much it. The Spikes Havoc 37mm launchers are pretty popular:

The 9" side loading pictured, they also have a 12" rear loading.

Ab_Normal · April 18th, 2012, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erwos

You create a DD the same way you create an SBR: engrave, fill out the form, pay your money, and wait a while.

Two things I'd point out about ammo:
1. Chalk rounds in a non-DD 37mm launcher are now a no-no.

Why? Are they classified as anti-personnel?

SCARCQB · April 18th, 2012, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erwos

You create a DD the same way you create an SBR: engrave, fill out the form, pay your money, and wait a while.

Two things I'd point out about ammo:
1. Chalk rounds in a non-DD 37mm launcher are now a no-no.
.

So.. No more 37mm chalk rounds to put lime on hard to reach areas of my backyard. Bummer

erwos · April 18th, 2012, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab_Normal

Why? Are they classified as anti-personnel?

This is my understanding, gleaned from various DD boards. They are considered lethal.

Buff7mm · April 18th, 2012, 07:22 AM

I'm on the fence right now about getting one of these myself, seems like alot of $$$ to lay out to not to really be able to have a little fun with it.

erwos · April 18th, 2012, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buff7mm

I'm on the fence right now about getting one of these myself, seems like alot of $$$ to lay out to not to really be able to have a little fun with it.

They make financial sense[1] if you live in a place with wide open areas nearby. Example: if you're in Nevada and can drive 15 minutes to the desert where NO ONE is going to be around for a square mile, well, yeah, you could shoot a 37mm launcher regularly with no problem. (Range on a 37mm projectile is only 50-300m, right? Not a whole lot.)

But around here? Eh, probably not so much. You might find a range or two crazy enough to let you fire a DD'd 37mm with a caliber insert, but that's about it.

[1] Insofar as "you could use it enough to justify buying it". Still a toy...

Buff7mm · April 18th, 2012, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erwos

They make financial sense[1] if you live in a place with wide open areas nearby. Example: if you're in Nevada and can drive 15 minutes to the desert where NO ONE is going to be around for a square mile, well, yeah, you could shoot a 37mm launcher regularly with no problem. (Range on a 37mm projectile is only 50-300m, right? Not a whole lot.)

But around here? Eh, probably not so much. You might find a range or two crazy enough to let you fire a DD'd 37mm with a caliber insert, but that's about it.

[1] Insofar as "you could use it enough to justify buying it". Still a toy...

Well I do live in the sticks and I'm sure that nobody around here would say to much about it, all my neighbors are family, more likely they would be fighting to play with it.

Armadillofz1 · April 21st, 2012, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViperRy

As stated above, smoke and flares are pretty much it. The Spikes Havoc 37mm launchers are pretty popular:

The 9" side loading pictured, they also have a 12" rear loading.

Say hellol to my Lil friend.

Noticed your avatar viperry, I do the same. Coach (CR) for roger Lyle as well.

zoostation · April 21st, 2012, 08:03 PM

Grammar moment:

Flare launcher:

Flair launcher:

Buff7mm · April 21st, 2012, 08:18 PM

I had a thread on this about two months ago and Maui had posted a link to the spikes launcher, but I was wondering who else makes these besides spikes. I need one of these like I need another hole in my head, but since I got the PTR 91 I still want to hang one of these from one of my cheaper AR's.
I'm not sure which one would go better on a 16 inch barrel carbine length gas system, a 9" or a 12"

BradMacc82 · April 21st, 2012, 08:19 PM

9"

Don't know who else is making them.

April 14th, 2012, 08:04 PM	#1
rickyp Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,015	37 MM launchers in MD I am thinking about getting a 37 MM launcher to go under my ar 15 and have some questions buth dealing with the federal and MD regs. I know they can be bought as a flair launcher with no paperwork. but if you want they can be registered as a D.D.with the ATF How would I make it from a flair launcher in to a D.D.? what is the MD laws regarding a 37 MM launcher? I know anti personal rounds are a no-no with out it being a D.D., What rounds can be fired from it with out the paperwork What rounds are legal to use in MD Can the fireworks round be used in MD? smoke rounds be used?

April 14th, 2012, 08:08 PM	#2
Inigoes Head'n for the hills Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SoMD / West PA Posts: 23,938	No special laws for a 37mm Smoke and flare are pretty much what you are limited to, making it eunuch. PM Midcounty for pricing __________________ 12/21/2012 - The Mayans lied Buy More Ammo Από τα νεκρά κρύα χέρια μου.

April 14th, 2012, 08:17 PM	#4
NHaze Zombie Hunter Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Brooklyn Park, Timonium Posts: 443	I know you can make up your own 37mm rounds, if legally licensed etc, etc... But aren't most anti-personnel rounds 40mm? And isn't each "explosive" round considered a unique DD? Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk 2 __________________ "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined." -P. Henry c.1788

April 18th, 2012, 07:22 AM	#14
Buff7mm Hooligan #2 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Garrett County Posts: 4,535	I'm on the fence right now about getting one of these myself, seems like alot of $$$ to lay out to not to really be able to have a little fun with it. __________________ 03 FFL Maryland Designated Collector U.S. ARMY VETERAN “The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose.” James Earl Jones

April 21st, 2012, 08:03 PM	#18
zoostation Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: mein 530xi Posts: 9,209 Images: 12	Grammar moment: Flare launcher: Flair launcher: __________________ "Though defensive violence will always be 'a sad necessity' in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrongdoers should dominate just men."-St. Augustine Certified Colt Armorer

April 14th, 2012, 08:16 PM	#3
rickyp Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,015	so smoke round and the firework rounds would be ok in MD?

April 14th, 2012, 08:20 PM	#6
rickyp Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,015	I have seen 12 ga shotshell and 38 special adaptors for it as well as other rounds for it, I would like to use the 12 ga so I will have to do the D.D. paperwork how do I go about doing it.

April 14th, 2012, 08:26 PM	#7
Cai Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Poolsville Posts: 268	Gotta be careful with the firework rounds. all air based fireworks are illegal in MD without the right permits.

April 15th, 2012, 09:17 AM	#9
erwos Jew with a Gun Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Rockville, MD Posts: 4,909	You create a DD the same way you create an SBR: engrave, fill out the form, pay your money, and wait a while. Two things I'd point out about ammo: 1. Chalk rounds in a non-DD 37mm launcher are now a no-no. 2. Each high explosive round is its own DD. They are basically cost prohibitive to use.

April 17th, 2012, 09:34 PM	#10
ViperRy Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brookeville, MD Posts: 810	As stated above, smoke and flares are pretty much it. The Spikes Havoc 37mm launchers are pretty popular: The 9" side loading pictured, they also have a 12" rear loading.

April 21st, 2012, 08:18 PM	#19
Buff7mm Hooligan #2 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Garrett County Posts: 4,535	I had a thread on this about two months ago and Maui had posted a link to the spikes launcher, but I was wondering who else makes these besides spikes. I need one of these like I need another hole in my head, but since I got the PTR 91 I still want to hang one of these from one of my cheaper AR's. I'm not sure which one would go better on a 16 inch barrel carbine length gas system, a 9" or a 12" __________________ 03 FFL Maryland Designated Collector U.S. ARMY VETERAN “The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose.” James Earl Jones

April 21st, 2012, 08:19 PM	#20
BradMacc82 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Calvert County Posts: 10,909	9" Don't know who else is making them. __________________ NRA Member MSI Sustaining Member Utah NR CFP Holder

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