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Old March 22nd, 2012, 06:54 PM   #1
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NM no longer accepts VA CHP

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I have just learned, with confirmation from the Virginia State Police, that New Mexico is NO LONGER RECOGNIZING Virginia CHPs because we don't require range time. We never have, odd that they are just now figuring that out. Perhaps they had a change in their law somewhere down the line.

New Mexico does NOT honor Florida or Utah non-resident permits, either.

Here are your options:

1. Open carry

2. In your vehicle you can have a concealed handgun. New Mexico views your vehicle as an extension of your home.

Virginia continues on the highroad, honoring New Mexico permits.

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Old March 22nd, 2012, 06:59 PM   #2
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They view your VEHICLE as an extension of your home? That's actually an interesting idea.
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Old March 22nd, 2012, 07:09 PM   #3
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New Mexico does NOT honor Florida or Utah non-resident permits, either.

Here are your options:

1. Open carry

2. In your vehicle you can have a concealed handgun. New Mexico views your vehicle as an extension of your home.
or

3. Obtain a AZ permit.


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Old March 22nd, 2012, 07:32 PM   #4
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You omitted an option. Go to the New Mexico web site and get an application for their non-resident permit and get one...if you want to. I've been telling you guys that the highly vaunted Florida and, yes, even the Utah non-resident permits are slowly going the way of the Do-Do bird as more and more states releaize that they can get a piece of that cash cow by simply changing their laws to NOT recognize non-resident permits from any state other than their own non-resident permits. And the fact is that no one can do anything about this.


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Old March 22nd, 2012, 07:48 PM   #5
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Can you give a list of states that have done this?
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Old March 22nd, 2012, 07:51 PM   #6
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Hence the need for REAL reciprocity.
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Old March 22nd, 2012, 07:55 PM   #7
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You omitted an option. Go to the New Mexico web site and get an application for their non-resident permit and get one...if you want to. I've been telling you guys that the highly vaunted Florida and, yes, even the Utah non-resident permits are slowly going the way of the Do-Do bird as more and more states releaize that they can get a piece of that cash cow by simply changing their laws to NOT recognize non-resident permits from any state other than their own non-resident permits. And the fact is that no one can do anything about this.
NM doesn't issue non-resident permits. See NM 29-19-4


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Old March 22nd, 2012, 08:47 PM   #8
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Hence the need for REAL reciprocity.
One would think article IVz Section 1(Full faith and credit) would apply, hand in hand with the 2nd. Particularly since the second has been incorporated and can't be argued to not apply to individuals, but I'll keep logic out of this since it involves government.


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Old March 22nd, 2012, 08:55 PM   #9
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3. Obtain a AZ permit.
What he said.
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 03:28 AM   #10
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The alleged reason given was VA does not require live fire, so the standards are not similar. Other states have used similar reasoning. NV dropped UT supposedly for that same issue.
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 05:51 AM   #11
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What he said.
Yeah, until NM pulls out of that one too.


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Old March 23rd, 2012, 06:33 AM   #12
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This is exactly why we need action at the Federal level.
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 07:44 AM   #13
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Can you give a list of states that have done this?
Sure. I did some research on this a few months ago and found that:
  • Colorado no longer recognizes non-resident permits from any state.
  • Florida (how about that) no longer recognizes non-resident permits (other than the ones they issue.)
  • Louisiana just enacted a change to their law effective 8/15/2011 stating that they no longer recognize out of state non-res permits.
  • Michigan no longer recognizes out of state issued non-res permits.
  • New Hampshire no longer recognizes out of state non-res permits.

Is that enough for you? I will re-check all of the states in the near future and then update a document I prepared on the subject and post it on this site. I don't have the time to do so now.


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Old March 23rd, 2012, 08:04 AM   #14
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Actually LA recognizes non resident permits from states that recognize theirs. They do not recognize non resident permits held by LA residents.

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The 2010 Regular Session of the Louisiana Legislature has made changes to LRS 40:1379.3. Most significantly, as of August 15, 2011, Louisiana will no longer allow residents to present a permit issued by another state for carrying in this state. The Laws and Rules Handbook is currently being re-written to reflect these changes.
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Louisiana Honors Non-Resident Permits/Licenses From the States They Honor. As of 8/15/11 A LA resident must have a LA Permit/License to Carry in LA.
IIRC only one state stopped recognizing NR permits since I got the 4 I have in 2009. The others already did not. Hardly a trend IMO.

Currently there are a total of 6 states that do not recognize NR permits

FL, CO, MI, NH, SC, ME
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 08:58 AM   #15
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The States out west seem to add and drop each other as often as most people change socks.

Fl , Mi has Never accepted non res permits.
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 10:47 AM   #16
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wonder if there were a large number of "potential tourists" contacted their tourism site stating they'd love to come spend money in there but........you don't except ccw from states from the east or whatever would havw any effect??
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Old March 24th, 2012, 05:30 AM   #17
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Some states passed prohibitions on non resident permits for their own residents. That makes sense to me. The others? Who knows?
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Old April 12th, 2012, 01:55 PM   #18
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Just found out yesterday regarding NM dropping FL.
It really sucks...
Was planning a Trip to drive out to Texas, Las Vegas and Grand Canyon...
I specifically applied for FL because because I already had UT which NM did not accept, and was thinking, well we can go to Disney land next.
I sent my app in 3/12.....NM dropped FL 3/23... Doesn't that suck.
However reading the OP had info regarding Open Carry OK....Pheeeew.. Dodged a Bullet.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 12:36 PM   #19
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NM is now rethinking this, according to the VCDL. Stay tuned....


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