SB0281 - Firearm Safety Act of 2013 (aka, AWB)

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  • erwos

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    SB0281/HB0294 - Firearm Safety Act of 2013 (aka, AWB)

    DO NOT DISCUSS PERCEIVED LOOPHOLES IN THIS BILL.
    DO NOT TELL US HOW YOU ARE MOVING OUT OF THE STATE.

    Ladies and gents, welcome to the main event. This is the bill Governor O'Malley told us about, and we need to fight it.

    The text of this bill is up, and the bill can be found here:
    http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/frmMain.aspx?pid=billpage&tab=subject3&id=sb0281&stab=01&ys=2013RS

    Direct link to text: http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2013RS/bills/sb/sb0281f.pdf

    The House version appears identical to the Senate version as of the first reading. Remember that for this bill to become law, it needs to be passed by both the House and the Senate.

    The hearing for the Senate version of the bill will be held on February 6th. There is a thread on this elsewhere:
    http://mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=102961

    Curious if your gun would be banned? There are flow charts for you to use:
    http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=2082414&postcount=506

    Highlights of the bill:
    1. Guns will be grandfathered, but need to be registered.
    2. Magazines are the same as before, just lowered to 10rds.
    3. Muzzle brakes, comps, and threaded barrels are not banned features on rifles (but you would not be able to mount a suppressor, as it's a flash hider).
    4. Pump and bolt guns are exempted.
    5. Threaded barrels on pistols are banned, but only if they can be used for a muzzle device (aka, doesn't ban non-threaded-barrel P22s by accident).
    6. Restrictions on semi-auto shotguns are surprisingly light (folding/telescoping stock + PG is the only thing banned).
    7. Everything on the current regulated long arms list is banned, including their copies.
    8. Inheritance is in!
    9. Rimfire rifles are not included, but rimfire pistols are included.
    10. Bullet buttons seem to be addressed, but the language is bizarre and unclear.
    11. Carry permits require 16h training.
    12. Handgun permits require 8h training (or a carry permit), background check, and $100 every five years.
    13. Much more flexibility for prohibiting individuals from ownership on mental health issues.
    14. "Good and substantial reason" language for carry permits is still present.
    15. Bans possession of ammunition if you would be prohibited from owning a regulated firearm (which includes people under 21).

    Please feel free to read the bill and email the senators who are 1) in the judicial committee and 2) sponsoring this bill. We want them to see well-crafted arguments about specifics of the bill. DO NOT DISCUSS PERCEIVED LOOPHOLES IN THIS BILL. As always, listen to MSI for instructions.
     
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    teratos

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    They are going to further limit handgun permits? Are they ignoring the Courts? :sad20:
     

    Jaybeez

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    The President (By Request - Administration) and Senators Benson, Conway, Currie, Ferguson, Forehand, Frosh, Kelley, King, Madaleno, Manno, Montgomery, Peters, Pinsky, Ramirez, Raskin, Robey, Rosapepe, Young, and Zirkin
    Additional Facts: Bill File Type: Regular
    Effective Date(s): October 1, 2013
    By Request of the Governor
     

    Kimerazor

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    Aug 14, 2011
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    We knew this was coming. Time to write & call our representatives. Seems like these people should be called something else as they don't represent.

    Oppressors.


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    Free Radical

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    I'd like to be able to gauge the likelihood of this passing so I would know how to react, but there's nothing but a vague synopsis. But even just by that, it looks bad enough.

    Damn, I hate democracy.
     

    Zaicran

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    Sep 26, 2010
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    Morganza, MD
    Damn, I hate democracy.

    I have to disagree with you there.

    We don't live in a democracy. This is where most Americans screwed up and caused the troubles in our country we are now having. We live in a REPUBLIC were elected officials are only legitimized and are subject to adhering to, a CONSTITUTION that they are to uphold. While we certainly elect them with a democratic "majority rule" process, they are subject to following the constitution. This is why the USA is referred to as a "nation of laws". The Constitution *is* the supreme law.

    Instead, people think we live in a democracy where whatever the majority wants, they get....which is incorrect.

    And you know what? It's the peoples fault. OUR fault...we elect these pandering fools.
     

    Free Radical

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    I have to disagree with you there.

    We don't live in a democracy. This is where most Americans screwed up and caused the troubles in our country we are now having. We live in a REPUBLIC were elected officials are only legitimized and are subject to adhering to, a CONSTITUTION that they are to uphold. While we certainly elect them with a democratic "majority rule" process, they are subject to following the constitution. This is why the USA is referred to as a "nation of laws". The Constitution *is* the supreme law.

    Instead, people think we live in a democracy where whatever the majority wants, they get....which is incorrect.

    And you know what? It's the peoples fault. OUR fault...we elect these pandering fools.

    It is a de jure republic, yes; but, we really function as a de facto democracy, since the rule of law and Constitution apparently don't mean a goddamn thing. The majority pretty much does always get what it wants. All the gun bills that have been passed and the ones that will be passed soon without regard to the Second Amendment are clear evidence of that. Two wolves and a sheep, man…

    Also, don't collectivize "the people" as if you and I are somehow responsible for the dumb votes of others and for the stupid, unconstitutional laws our "representatives" legislate.
     

    kalister1

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    prohibiting, with specified exceptions, a person from transporting an assault weapon into the State or possessing

    How do you get Grandfathered with the word "Possessing"?

    LEO's buy their AR's with their money, they will be the exception.

    What did I miss?
     

    RLBosley

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    Dec 14, 2012
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    Robert

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    May 11, 2011
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    AA County, MD
    prohibiting, with specified exceptions, a person from transporting an assault weapon into the State or possessing

    How do you get Grandfathered with the word "Possessing"?

    LEO's buy their AR's with their money, they will be the exception.

    What did I miss?

    Without the bills text no idea, but generally you don't. Say by-by to your "assault weapons".. :mad54:
     

    SamW

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    "If you have to get a license to drive a car on the street or a motorcycle on the street I think most Marylanders -- Democrats, Republicans, and Independents -- agree that you should have to be license in order to operate a firearm,"
    Gov O' Malley



    He doesn't even know (or care) the difference between a privilege and a right.
     

    Mr H

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    prohibiting, with specified exceptions, a person from transporting an assault weapon into the State or possessing

    How do you get Grandfathered with the word "Possessing"?

    LEO's buy their AR's with their money, they will be the exception.

    What did I miss?

    The words that could suggest grandfathering are 'with specified exceptions'

    Waiting to see the whole text before judging, here. But it's bad. Just a matter of how bad.

    Now the contact battle begins.
     

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