Moving To DC, Storing Firearms In Maryland Storage Facillity?

[Relax Preppy]

Does anyone else do this? Im trying to think of any scenarios that could possibly come up... I would just be storing a Glock 19, sub-2000, 30-30 winchester, and a shotgun

[jimbobborg]

why would you want to move to DC when the suburbs are so much more pleasant?

[BlueHeeler]

The problem would be with MD law. I do not know MD law.

DC does not care what you own elsewhere. Just do not bring it into the city, ever. You will have a very tough time convincing an officer you do not have an unregistered firearm in your possession. Also do not mention you own an unregistered firearm even if it is in MD. The DC gun Gestapo WILL kick in your door if they have any inclination you might have an unregistered firearm.

[Relax Preppy]

The problem would be with MD law. I do not know MD law.

DC does not care what you own elsewhere. Just do not bring it into the city, ever. You will have a very tough time convincing an officer you do not have an unregistered firearm in your possession. Also do not mention you own an unregistered firearm even if it is in MD. The DC gun Gestapo WILL kick in your door if they have any inclination you might have an unregistered firearm.

i was thinking federal transportation law would work if i was transporting firearms from MD through DC to the NRA range in VA for instance... i should probably consult a lawyer

[BlueHeeler]

i was thinking federal transportation law would work if i was transporting firearms from MD through DC to the NRA range in VA for instance... i should probably consult a lawyer

Talk to a lawyer, but it is legal to transport through DC. However if your driver’s license and/or residence is DC and you are caught in possession you are going to have a tough time convincing the officer you do not keep it at home. Right or wrong, you might get locked up.

The Kel-Tec cannot be registered in DC, but the Glock, rifle and shotgun are probably ok.

FWIW a guy really did have his DC apartment raided because he was keeping a firearm in MD. Somehow there was confusion between possession and ownership. There is also a $1,000 reward for unregistered firearms. However the instructions are, “Call (888) 919-2746 or (202) 727-9099 if you know someone who has a gun…” If someone finds out, you will get ratted out.
http://mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/lib/mpdc/Got_Guns_Posters_LO.pdf

Is there any reason you would pick DC over more gun friendly VA or MD?

[sundazes]

I would not even transport them through DC. GO around. It aint worth the hassle if you get stopped. It may be legal per federal laws, but the LEO that stops you will see the firearms and not care. He will let the courts sort it out.
We have at least one metro DC LEO on here. Hopefully he will chime in.

[cowboy321]

DC is a fun place to live. Foggy bottom, Cap hill. Much wool to chase if you are single..
I know gun owners there, including a guy who just legally bought a 44 magnum pistol and others with skeet guns, etc registered. A big hassle, but you can do it. Or just keep one firearm registered and the others at your Md estate..

[Markp]

Does anyone else do this? Im trying to think of any scenarios that could possibly come up... I would just be storing a Glock 19, sub-2000, 30-30 winchester, and a shotgun

Northern Virginia would make more sense.

[rouchna]

Northern Virginia would make more sense.

This!

[BlueHeeler]

DC is a fun place to live. Foggy bottom, Cap hill. Much wool to chase if you are single..
I know gun owners there, including a guy who just legally bought a 44 magnum pistol and others with skeet guns, etc registered. A big hassle, but you can do it. Or just keep one firearm registered and the others at your Md estate..

Sure, I have registered every gun imaginable in DC within the law. Possibly sometimes I have been over the spirit of the law, but within the legal definition. Registration for me is an expensive and time consuming addiction to push DC law for the next guy. However most people with any common sense do not hold the same sadistic passion. True there are tons of hot chicks in DC and the nightlife is great for a single person, I know this, I live this. OTOH Arlington is 2 minutes away and also has a similar scene without the registration hassle. Plus there is very little crime over there. Silver Spring on the MD side has about the same cost of living and he can keep the Kel-Tec.

I have said it before and I will say it again, to be a DC gun owner you must love the city life more than you love your guns. Also having a pile of disposable income for firearms registration helps.

[87Theworld]

Well I love firearms more than the city so no DC for me MD is a little too strict for me.

[K-Romulus]

Does anyone else do this? Im trying to think of any scenarios that could possibly come up... I would just be storing a Glock 19, sub-2000, 30-30 winchester, and a shotgun

I have read in the paper of DC residents doing this, but I think they had relatives or friends outside the city. I also know Gilbert's Gun Range in Rockville, MD, and Silver Eagle Group in Ashburn, VA, offered this storage service.

[BlueHeeler]

Something to think about.

I know of a security agent who was working two jobs to support his family. He was going from job 1 in MD to job 2 in MD and got pulled over in DC for illegal window tint. He was going from one authorized place to another. He was driving across the far east corner of DC. The officer saw his security uniform and asked if he was armed. The guy said, 'Yes, my gun is in the trunk, unloaded, locked in a case separate from the ammo.' Wrong answer. He got locked up and went to jail. The DC prosecutor saw the case and sent it to trial. So this guy doing work to scrape by trying to support a wife and kids had to spend thousands of dollars on a lawyer.

He did win his freedom because the case was bogus. However the lesson is DC does not follow Federal law and it does not bother DC to ruin someone's life. Do not be the guy to provoke the anger of DC.

[Markp]

Something to think about.

I know of a security agent who was working two jobs to support his family. He was going from job 1 in MD to job 2 in MD and got pulled over in DC for illegal window tint. He was going from one authorized place to another. He was driving across the far east corner of DC. The officer saw his security uniform and asked if he was armed. The guy said, 'Yes, my gun is in the trunk, unloaded, locked in a case separate from the ammo.' Wrong answer. He got locked up and went to jail. The DC prosecutor saw the case and sent it to trial. So this guy doing work to scrape by trying to support a wife and kids had to spend thousands of dollars on a lawyer.

He did win his freedom because the case was bogus. However the lesson is DC does not follow Federal law and it does not bother DC to ruin someone's life. Do not be the guy to provoke the anger of DC.

Only police and criminals should have guns in DC.

[lasher9999]

Only police and criminals should have guns in DC.

and the mentally defective. Politicians for instance.

[MDPrinter]

Unless I was able to walk to work I would never consider living in DC. Wait I wouldn't even consider it if I could walk to work

[Heist]

i was thinking federal transportation law would work if i was transporting firearms from MD through DC to the NRA range in VA for instance... i should probably consult a lawyer

I have dual residences in MD and DC. I keep my license active in both jurisdictions.
You can travel through DC with your firearm regardless if you are a DC resident or not. However, if you are stopped, and you have a firearm with you that you did not register in DC, you better make it absolutely clear that you are on your way to a range or shop and your trip did not start or stop in DC at any time.

[Heist]

Something to think about.

I know of a security agent who was working two jobs to support his family. He was going from job 1 in MD to job 2 in MD and got pulled over in DC for illegal window tint. He was going from one authorized place to another. He was driving across the far east corner of DC. The officer saw his security uniform and asked if he was armed. The guy said, 'Yes, my gun is in the trunk, unloaded, locked in a case separate from the ammo.' Wrong answer. He got locked up and went to jail. The DC prosecutor saw the case and sent it to trial. So this guy doing work to scrape by trying to support a wife and kids had to spend thousands of dollars on a lawyer.

He did win his freedom because the case was bogus. However the lesson is DC does not follow Federal law and it does not bother DC to ruin someone's life. Do not be the guy to provoke the anger of DC.

I'm sorry to hear this.
Your friend, in turn, should have filed suit against the prosecutor's office and DCPD for violation of his rights, false prosecution, legal and filing fees.

Prosecutors have a duty to know the law - both city and Federal before they file a case involving a matter that brushes against Federal law. Simply having enough perceived merit to make trial is not enough.

[Heist]

Sure, I have registered every gun imaginable in DC within the law. Possibly sometimes I have been over the spirit of the law, but within the legal definition. Registration for me is an expensive and time consuming addiction to push DC law for the next guy. However most people with any common sense do not hold the same sadistic passion. True there are tons of hot chicks in DC and the nightlife is great for a single person, I know this, I live this. OTOH Arlington is 2 minutes away and also has a similar scene without the registration hassle. Plus there is very little crime over there. Silver Spring on the MD side has about the same cost of living and he can keep the Kel-Tec.

I have said it before and I will say it again, to be a DC gun owner you must love the city life more than you love your guns. Also having a pile of disposable income for firearms registration helps.

I've registered in DC. The process is designed to look intimidating (compared to MD/VA), frustrate and wear someone down.

- First, make sure you are 100% clean. No outstanding delinquent tickets, no suspended license, taxes owed, no nothing.

- Go to DC PD HQ (300 Indiana) and pick up the FRS form (PD-2 something..) They may finally have put it online or can fax it. Not sure. They made you go to physically pick it up before.

- If buying a new or new to you weapon, DO NOT fill it out. You have to find the gun you want, then you and the dealer will fill it out together. (Make sure the weapon you want is not on DC's banned list!)

- Take a firearms course and get the certificate. 4 hours + $250. Cha-ching! Thanks for making me pay to prove things I already know and to learn 5 or 6 piddly one sheeter laws unique to DC.

- Take the DC firearms test. (20 Q's)

- Bring two passport photos taken within the last 30 days.

- Get fingerprinted.

- Pay your fees ($50-60)

- Wait for your registration to come back (about 7-10 days). If approved, you take it to the dealer and have him send it to a DC dealer where you can pick-up your weapon.
As far as I know the only "dealer" is now in DCPD HQ. He occupies a room, doesn't sell weapons (don't know if he can order them) and has a monopoly on FFL Transfers which is the only legal way to bring a newly bought gun into the district - unless you can find someone in the city who wants to sell you a rifle or shotgun. He works by appointment only and charges a absurd sum to do the FFL, but when you have a legal monopoly you get to charge as you please.

- Done, right? Nope, now bring the gun back for a ballistics sample (Applies to guns you already have too) which is going to take about an hour.

...Now you're done. Happy ownership. Now don't EVER walk out of your house with the gun loaded, and in so much as DC is concerned, keep the gun unloaded in the house as well. :sad20:

[tc617]

Realize that if you drive I-95 across the Woodrow Wilson bridge between Maryland and Virginia, you physically pass through Washington DC. It is a small corridor but if you break down or get pulled over on the bridge and stop anywhere near the draw bridge tower, you will be in Washington DC. The employees who man the draw bridge tower are actually employed by DC City Government and when accidents occur on the bridge, they have a sight that they look through to determine which police authority should respond.

[Heist]

^^^What utter nonsense. You would hope when lines are drawn or redrawn for the purpose of highways and re-districting, someone would injection some rationalization and not leave 1/10th of a mile sliver of asphalt inbetween two neighboring jurisdictions.

What municipality would want to be responsible for such a far flung, meaningless piece of property - unless it happens to be a nice revenue stream of some sort. Maybe DC gets to request Federal Highway dollars because they own a portion?

[swinokur]

Columbia Island is in DC. Be careful. Map attached

[swinokur]

Another example of :

Don't ever consent to a search
Decline to talk to a cop.

(4th and 5th Amendments still apply in DC AFAIK)

It can only end badly in DC

[tc617]

Here is an aerial photo to show the exact location; basically from the drawbridge opening to the Virginia shoreline are within the District of Columbia... proceed with caution.

[swinokur]

By agreement, DC handles incidents on the water and MD handles incidents on the bridge itself.

The bigger worry is traveling along the GW Parkway. Columbia Island is in DC and there is no sign at either end indicating this. If going south, as soon as you cross over the small inlet to the Pentagon lagoon, you are in DC. Coming north, as soon as you cross the humpback bridge, you are again in DC.

You can OC in VA but driving in either direction while doing this or even CC'ing you are now breaking DC law as soon as you get onto the Island because NPS rules state the law of the jurisdiction where the NPS property is located applies.. I stop and disarm in either direction to be safe. The Island is US Park property and USPP has jurisdiction but they follow DC law. Be fore warned.