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scribe556
December 11th, 2009, 09:50 PM
Standard target loads, nothing too light, not too hot...

DD214
December 11th, 2009, 10:10 PM
I use the long time standard of 5.0 grains of Bullseye behind a 230gr FMJ RN.

helg
December 11th, 2009, 10:16 PM
You would better ask about the best beer for a cold winter night.

Any powder from Bullseye to 2400 (well, to about 800X for 230 bullet) in the burn rate chart (one of the charts is here (http://www.reloadbench.com/burn.html)) should propel the 45ACP bullet.

Faster powders, from top of the interval, burn completely while bullet is in the bore, thus giving better accuracy (due to smaller muzzle pressure) and cleaner burning. Slower powders, at the bottom of the interval, give the bullet more speed. You see the trade-offs.

Ball powders measure accurately. On the other hand, flake powders do not have problems with slow burning of the last few percents of the powder, and therefore, leave less dirt.

Mud Turtle
December 12th, 2009, 06:05 AM
Bullseye

alucard0822
December 12th, 2009, 06:10 AM
I use the long time standard of 5.0 grains of Bullseye behind a 230gr FMJ RN.

:thumbsup: good warm and accurate load for most every 45

Same bullet with 4gr of clays is a nice light and clean load good for competition. This load also works well with lead bullets.

For the hottest +p loads, 11.5gr of AA#7 is the best, VERY hot and very accurate, good for about 950FPS. In some guns rated for 45 super like USPs, S&W 625s, some long guns, or guns wearing a 45 super or 460 Rowland barrels, you can go up to about 13.5gr in 45 super brass(dimentionally identical to 45ACP, but stronger), and reach about 1,100FPS without going over 45super pressures. Of course this data is "at your own risk", and you want to work up loads, make sure you are using appropriate brass, and firing the load out of an appropriate gun. compared to 45CP's low 21,000psi pressure, and 45ACP+p at 23,000PSI, 45 super runs at 28,000psi, and will damage 45acp guns not rated for it.

Topher
December 12th, 2009, 06:31 AM
I agree about Bullseye - 5.0 grains -
...but I have a buddy that swears by the VV powder.

He state that is as accurate and cleaner.

wyomingboy
December 12th, 2009, 06:46 AM
231

Drmsparks
December 12th, 2009, 10:11 AM
Just to be contrarian....

I think it depends in part on what you are using to reload.

My buddy who introduced me to reloading used Universal Clays for his 45's, through his dillon 550. No problems.

I tried the same thing with my Lee classic. My machine does not like the flake. Once I'm done with this can, I'm switching to 231....

scribe556
December 14th, 2009, 10:15 PM
Thanks for the great info, all!

bulletbill
December 15th, 2009, 06:29 AM
:thumbsup: on the AA #7

jjboxman
December 15th, 2009, 07:04 AM
231+1

DZ
December 15th, 2009, 07:23 AM
I also use 231 for my .45 ACP range loads. Clean and as accurate as I am. I dont remember what charge weight I use off hand, but its whatever Lee Auto-Disk that falls between the min and max charge weights:thumbsup:

ETA: 5.3 grains and Berry's 230gn CPRN

mike_in_md
December 15th, 2009, 07:55 AM
I'm going to try using 4.2 grains of Bullseye for 230 FMJ RN. Several competition shooters in the High Master and Master classifications have told me that this is what they use for timed and rapid fire (25 yards). I've been runnnig at 4.7 grains bullseye which seems to be pretty accurate for 50 yards.

Tree Rat
December 15th, 2009, 12:41 PM
Bullseye....god I feel like I'm a geezer.



TR

Cochise
December 15th, 2009, 01:25 PM
I use either Bullseye or 231, neither is better or worse, both do great. Just what i have at the time. Plenty of other powders will work too.
Bullseye is the time proven classic that all others will be compared to.

The Gnome
December 15th, 2009, 02:02 PM
I have been running 4.5 of Bullseye behind a 230 gr. LRN. 822 FPS. For IDPA I load the same with 4.0. That should put me at 725 FPS. PF is 718.

Fustercluck
December 15th, 2009, 02:50 PM
4.8g of WW231 pushing a Berry 230g plated RN bullet is my IDPA load of choice. Chrono's at about 750fps in my 5" Wilson barrel. Very soft-shooting, accurate load.

Trapper
January 7th, 2010, 06:26 PM
3.5 gr of Clays behind a 230gr Berry's makes a good indoor-range round for 50' or less.

Bonanza
January 22nd, 2010, 08:12 PM
I use; 6.1gr. of Winchester Super Field @ 830fps = Practice holes in paper.
8.0gr. Ramshot Silhouette @ 950+fps = Bad guy stoppers.

Approach the 8gr Silhouette slowly as 8.2 started showing signs of primers popping.

shrpshtrjoe
January 25th, 2010, 06:05 PM
230gr berrys RN / 6.2 grains of Unique

snapshotmd
January 28th, 2010, 06:24 AM
200 gr LSWC; 5.0 gr W231

My Toy
January 29th, 2010, 06:39 PM
5.0 grains Bullseye, 230 gr. FMC.

midcountygunshop
January 29th, 2010, 07:29 PM
Bullseye is good. I haven't tried it in my 230gr loads, as I shoot more 200gr. With the 200gr Solo 1000 is an accurate powder to use. I like 4.0gr with a 200gr SWC.

Biggfoot44
January 30th, 2010, 12:55 AM
231 is default choice.

novus collectus
January 30th, 2010, 02:27 AM
231

:thumbsup:

TripleChris
January 31st, 2010, 08:12 PM
I shoot 230 gr oregon trail laser cast bullets over HP-38, nice and cheap when my only objective is ventilating paper.