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X-Factor
December 5th, 2009, 10:43 PM
How do you go about legally turning a semi-only AR into a true SF? Safe/Semi/Auto.

Tootall
December 5th, 2009, 10:50 PM
as far as i know you dont

X-Factor
December 5th, 2009, 10:51 PM
Ah. :( Killjoy. :(

joppaj
December 5th, 2009, 10:52 PM
as far as i know you dont

That's what I thought too. The reason MG's are as expensive as they are is that it's a limited pool.

DD214
December 5th, 2009, 10:55 PM
I think that you can legally do it if you can get your hands on a pre-86 register drop in auto sear.

DD214
December 5th, 2009, 10:56 PM
http://www.quarterbore.com/nfa/dias.html

august1410
December 5th, 2009, 11:04 PM
there is a Select Fire conversion kit available. However, it renders your cell phone completely useless.

Sorry...saw the title and couldn't pass up the correlation. Apologies for jacking the thread for a joke that never gets old.

a81lp
December 5th, 2009, 11:08 PM
there is a Select Fire conversion kit available. However, it renders your cell phone completely useless.

Sorry...saw the title and couldn't pass up the correlation. Apologies for jacking the thread for a joke that never gets old.

i thought it was funny:innocent0

X-Factor
December 5th, 2009, 11:11 PM
there is a Select Fire conversion kit available. However, it renders your cell phone completely useless.

Sorry...saw the title and couldn't pass up the correlation. Apologies for jacking the thread for a joke that never gets old.

Never heard it....

zombiehunter
December 5th, 2009, 11:25 PM
lol joke took me a second

evilf150
December 6th, 2009, 01:21 AM
there is a Select Fire conversion kit available. However, it renders your cell phone completely useless.

Sorry...saw the title and couldn't pass up the correlation. Apologies for jacking the thread for a joke that never gets old.

love it:lol2::lol::thumbsup:

Squad40
December 6th, 2009, 03:27 AM
there is a Select Fire conversion kit available. However, it renders your cell phone completely useless.



I'm only interested if it talks down to me as well.

Falcon78
December 6th, 2009, 03:35 AM
there is a Select Fire conversion kit available. However, it renders your cell phone completely useless.

Sorry...saw the title and couldn't pass up the correlation. Apologies for jacking the thread for a joke that never gets old.

LMAO!

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December 6th, 2009, 04:00 AM
easy, you go to sometime before 1986 and do it. Second, you realize that automatic weapons are just like any other capitalist product and need to be developed. So you become a class III manufacturer. You have to pay a lot, but once you have this status you can manufacture machine guns, legally.

novus collectus
December 6th, 2009, 05:35 AM
-Find an already registered auto sear and install it (as already mentioned)
-Become licensed to manufature Class III (already mentioned)
-Become a police agency (good luck with that one)
-Take a boat outside of US territorial waters and make one, but don,t bring it back.
-Move to Montana and wait to see if their recent law claiming the NFA and GCA are moot for guns only to be used in Montana survives the Supreme Court
-Go to a country where it is legal and do it
-Find a pre 1968 M16 with the select fire permanently disabled and hope they do another 90 day amnesty period for registering certain full auto again so you can convert it and register it

In other words, except for installing an expensive, registered auto sear, forget about it.

ViperRy
December 7th, 2009, 12:10 AM
As said before, your best bet is an RDIAS. They go from 10-13k in today's market... for $2 worth of metal :) You can also look into Lightning Links for a little cheaper but if your going to spend the cash get an RDIAS.

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December 7th, 2009, 12:39 AM
we should have one member start a company and then get class III manufacturer status. Then just use this institution for everyone else to make automatics and keep them at the company. We'd save a lot of money and be able to make anything we want. Even automatic Mosin's.

I have a few prints in my 3D CAD's.

novus collectus
December 7th, 2009, 12:51 AM
we should have one member start a company and then get class III manufacturer status. Then just use this institution for everyone else to make automatics and keep them at the company. We'd save a lot of money and be able to make anything we want. Even automatic Mosin's.

I have a few prints in my 3D CAD's.
Automatic Mosins would probably be heavy and a little complicated like the full auto .303 Enfields were. It would be easier and probably lighter to make a straight pull bolt action like a K31 full auto IMO.

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December 7th, 2009, 01:01 AM
Automatic Mosins would probably be heavy and a little complicated like the full auto .303 Enfields were. It would be easier and probably lighter to make a straight pull bolt action like a K31 full auto IMO.

we just need the approval from the ATF. Then we can all be employees.

I disagree. My design essentially puts some pins in the mosin, adds to the magazine well and allows the unit to pin on top.

Maybe we could see if LWRC would allow us to make stuff there.

novus collectus
December 7th, 2009, 01:38 AM
we just need the approval from the ATF. Then we can all be employees.

I disagree. My design essentially puts some pins in the mosin, adds to the magazine well and allows the unit to pin on top.

Maybe we could see if LWRC would allow us to make stuff there.What? No gas bleed off or pistons? The full auto .303 Enfields (there were two, each from different eras IIRC) used a gas piston and cams IIRC.

midcountygunshop
December 9th, 2009, 05:04 PM
I have the license, and I am always looking to build things to do research in how to make a more effective law enforcement or military firearm :innocent0

K31
December 9th, 2009, 06:46 PM
I'm only interested if it talks down to me as well.

It tells you how it clears a room in a pimply voice.