Three questions for C&R License

[h2u]

I am presently filling out my C&R Form and have (I hope) three easy questions.

1) Question 8--Total Application Fees--I think it's $30-just want to make sure.

2)Question 10-- Nonimmigrant Alien Cert. of Compliance--Didn't fully understand who was "certifying compliance"--I think that is me, but don't want to send in wrong info and have it take several more weeks...

3) Question 14-- Applicant Certification-- Am I supposed to initial in each of those TINY boxes? Is there anything here I must accomplish other than getting a copy to the CLEO? I was kind of worried about "complying with requirments of State and Local law" I just want to make sure there are no other "hoops" I need to jump through....
I also assume I need to mail/deliver to MSP as the CLEO. If I'm in the Annapolis area, which Barracks?


Thanks for your help in advance.

[novus collectus]

I am presently filling out my C&R Form and have (I hope) three easy questions.

1) Question 8--Total Application Fees--I think it's $30-just want to make sure.


Yes.
2)Question 10-- Nonimmigrant Alien Cert. of Compliance--Didn't fully understand who was "certifying compliance"--I think that is me, but don't want to send in wrong info and have it take several more weeks...
Been a while since I filled it out, but I think the question is completely moot if you are a citizen. I vaguely remember the question, but I think it explains thaty you do not have to answer if you are a citizen IIRC.

3) Question 14-- Applicant Certification-- Am I supposed to initial in each of those TINY boxes? Is there anything here I must accomplish other than getting a copy to the CLEO? I was kind of worried about "complying with requirments of State and Local law" I just want to make sure there are no other "hoops" I need to jump through....
I also assume I need to mail/deliver to MSP as the CLEO. If I'm in the Annapolis area, which Barracks?


Thanks for your help in advance. If you are going with the MSP as your CLEO, then send a copy to the licensing division in Jessup I believe. At the very least they will send it on to the proper office if it is not them.
I am pretty sure all you have to do is send the origional to the ATF (with money order) and the copy to the CLEO. Nothing else is required as I understand it.

[novus collectus]

Maryland State Police
Licensing Division
7751 Washington Boulevard
Jessup, Maryland 20794

[zoostation]

1) yes it's $30, if you want it to go quicker use a money order or credit card, they don't process the application till a personal check clears

2) can't remember exactly, as I recall if you weren't a nonimmigrant alien you left it blank, think it says that on there somewhere

3) yes you must initial each tiny box. If you live in AA County there are no special zoning requirements or anything to worry about. You just need to mail the local CLEO copy of the application to MSP Firearms Licensing Division, 7751 Washington Boulevard, Jessup, MD 20794.

[h2u]

Novus,
Thanks for the info. The last sentence of #2 (question 10) states, "All nonimmigrant aliens listed in item 9 (info of responsible person) must complete the following (question 10) certfying compliance with 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B)".

I didn't know if I should just leave it blank as it asks as one of the sub-qusestions, "are you in possession of a valid hunting license or permit lawfully issued in the United States?

Basically, I just want to make sure I fill out everything correctly because I travel extensively and won't be able to make corrections. I just want to fill it out and come home from a long trip and find everything (books and license) sitting in my office at home.....

Again, thanks for the help.

[h2u]

Zoo and Novus,
Thanks for the mailing address. That will definitely speed things up.

[novus collectus]

Novus,
Thanks for the info. The last sentence of #2 (question 10) states, "All nonimmigrant aliens listed in item 9 (info of responsible person) must complete the following (question 10) certfying compliance with 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B)".

I didn't know if I should just leave it blank as it asks as one of the sub-qusestions, "are you in possession of a valid hunting license or permit lawfully issued in the United States?

Basically, I just want to make sure I fill out everything correctly because I travel extensively and won't be able to make corrections. I just want to fill it out and come home from a long trip and find everything (books and license) sitting in my office at home.....

Again, thanks for the help.
They ask about the hunting license because, a little known fact I discovered recently, it is illegal for a non-resident alien to even touch a gun (even at a gun range). The exception is if the non-resident and legal alien has a hunting license issued by any state, whether or not it is in the state where they want to shoot.
I guess a non-immigrant, but legal resident alien is allowed to get a C&R license if I understand that right.

You should be fine leaving it blank, but to make sure re-read it for clarification, but I will bet you can leave it blank or check a box stating you are a citizen.

By the way, you do realize if you have more than one residence or one collection location, you can have two licenses with one for each location. Costs thirty bucks for each though IIRC.

[h2u]

Great info. I will leave it blank and pray that my Md place of birth and Md place of residence will pull me through (though being born at PG Hospital might cause some kind of alarm to go off somewhere :) )

[h2u]

Also, for the CLEO question --- it asks for the name of the CLEO. Any ideas- or just put down "Firearms Licensing Division" for the name.

[Half-cocked]

I used my county's sheriff, as this was the recommended CLEO in the instructions when I filled out my form. I just had to google up their website for the address (since I voted for him I knew his name already :D)

[novus collectus]

Also, for the CLEO question --- it asks for the name of the CLEO. Any ideas- or just put down "Firearms Licensing Division" for the name.

If you are using the MSP, just put Maryland State Police and it should be fine. That is what I did.

[h2u]

Thanks to all!! I feel much more confident in sending in the paperwork now. I leave tomorrow night and don't get back for a few weeks. I hope that time goes a long way toward getting the approval. If/when I get approved-- you know I'll be back here asking ?'s.... (after searching the archives, of course).

[zoostation]

Also, for the CLEO question --- it asks for the name of the CLEO. Any ideas- or just put down "Firearms Licensing Division" for the name.

just in case they get picky;

I would put "Superintendent of State Police Terrance Sheridan c/o MSP Firearms Licensing Division 7751 Washington Blvd......" etc. I think you'd be fine the other way, but you're right it does ask for a name so it can't hurt. That's how I did mine.

[h2u]

One last question--Do I need to send in a copy of the form 5330.20 (Cert. of Compliance with 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B) to the CLEO, or is that just to the ATFE?

Thanks

[novus collectus]

One last question--Do I need to send in a copy of the form 5330.20 (Cert. of Compliance with 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B) to the CLEO, or is that just to the ATFE?

ThanksYour numbers confuse me, but I found this for you: iv.) The applicant has completed and sent or delivered ATF F 5300.36 (Notification of Intent to Apply for a Federal Firearms License) to the chief law enforcement officer of the locality in which the premises are located, which indicates that the applicant intends to apply for a Federal firearms license. For purposes of this paragraph, the "chief law enforcement officer" is the chief of police, the sheriff, or an equivalent officer. http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/curios/intro.htm

[RDavidP]

Here is what I found.

Item 10: Fill in “A.” with your name (if you are a US citizen) then skip to Item 11. If you have nonimmigrant status you will need to fill out parts B and C as well.

http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2005/howtogetyourcurionrelicffl03/index.asp

[Half-cocked]

IMPORTANT! When you receive your license, do NOT sign it! The original license is not meant to be signed - you need to make copies and sign them, in blue (many businesses won't accept copies signed in black, only in another color to prove they're not copied signatures.) Every copy that you send to another FFL to do business with, has to have an actual human-inked signature.

[nighthawk2099]

Every copy that you send to another FFL to do business with, has to have an actual human-inked signature.

Just as a side note, AIM, SOG and MIDWAY (so far) will take a faxed signed 03FFL. In my case, the faxes were always too dark, so they took a scanned copy emailed to them.

[novus collectus]

Just as a side note, AIM, SOG and MIDWAY (so far) will take a faxed signed 03FFL. In my case, the faxes were always too dark, so they took a scanned copy emailed to them.

Yes, I believe ATF recently said emailed signed copies is acceptable now, but some dealers still require a fax and some may actually still require a hard copy.

[h2u]

Your numbers confuse me, but I found this for you: http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/curios/intro.htm

I sent off two forms to the ATFE per instructions--5310.16 (green form=C&R application) and form 5330.20 which I described above as the Certification of Compliance with 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B)-that is a single page where as a US citizen, you are just writing your name (twice) and signing at the bottom. I was planning to send both to CLEO anyway(can't hurt to send more info than requested), but was just trying to verify.

Thanks